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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:38 am    Post subject: In a relationship with a none muslim Reply with quote

Aslama aleikum..

I am man of the muslim faith very strong in my heart though may actions may not always be according to the quran. But i want to...
Lately i have found myself contemplating leading a life even more according to the legislation of the quran. Much thanks to Khalid Yasin. I have also invistegated some of the hadith on this web page,gospel of barnebus on the web and also some transelations of the quranic verse.

I have been in relationship with a none muslim girl for about 5 years, shes Norwegian. She has a good heart towards others, but is still a long way from opening up to islam. I understand that i as a muslim should lead a life according to islam, and raise/lead my family according to islam.
I have some issues of course that i was hoping maybe someone here (maybe sheikh khalid yasin) could help me answer.

1. I love this girl truley. She has a good basic human nature.
So if i were to sacrifice my feelings and follow islam. Wouldnt i be leaving
her "behind" as to i may be her only hope towards allah in the long run?
Isn`t that selfish of me?

2.Will allah forgive me if i stick by her and try to guide here towards islam? Though there is a possibility that i can fail....


PS! Alltough i know it is a sin to live with a woman before marriage. I have in my heart ,before allah, pledged to act as her husband. I recognise that this may be a bit thin for many people.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: In a relationship with a none muslim Reply with quote

nomi wrote:
Aslama aleikum..



I have been in relationship with a none muslim girl for about 5 years, shes Norwegian. She has a good heart towards others, but is still a long way from opening up to islam. I understand that i as a muslim should lead a life according to islam, and raise/lead my family according to islam.
I have some issues of course that i was hoping maybe someone here (maybe sheikh khalid yasin) could help me answer.

1. I love this girl truley. She has a good basic human nature.
So if i were to sacrifice my feelings and follow islam. Wouldnt i be leaving
her "behind" as to i may be her only hope towards allah in the long run?
Isn`t that selfish of me?

2.Will allah forgive me if i stick by her and try to guide here towards islam? Though there is a possibility that i can fail....


PS! Alltough i know it is a sin to live with a woman before marriage. I have in my heart ,before allah, pledged to act as her husband. I recognise that this may be a bit thin for many people.


Asalamalikum brother.
WELL COME TO CYS,AND THANK YOU FOR PUTING YOUR TRUST IN US.
My humble advise to you would be why dont you marry her?if she is serious about this relationship why not make it legal in the law of Allah,that way you will not be SINNING,and you can guide her towards Islam.
Pledging an act before Allah as her husband dose NOT make you her husband in the law of Allah,the best and the right thing to do is to marry her and that way you will be fulfilling the sunnah and not sinning before Allah.
That's the advice i can give you and rest is up to u.
And Allah knows best.
walaikumsalam.
Your sister in Islam safah.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1. I love this girl truley. She has a good basic human nature.
So if i were to sacrifice my feelings and follow islam. Wouldnt i be leaving
her "behind" as to i may be her only hope towards allah in the long run?
Isn`t that selfish of me?


You will not be leaving her 'behind'. You being there or not makes no difference to her excepting Islam.
Only Allah guides whom he wills. The message is there and has been given, it is her own choice to take it or refuse it.

The Prophets very kind Uncle Abu Talib, remained firm on disbelief in spite of his nearness to the Messenger of Allah.
So what makes us so arrogant to think we are responsible for the guidance of others?
We are here to spread the message, speak the Truth and do Good. Allah is the one who guides.

And sacrificing your feeling for the sake of Allah would of course. Be the best of actions. When one does this sincerely, Allah will open doors from places that he could never have imagined.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

assalaamu alaykum,

although the above answers are i am sure well intentioned, can i ask did they check whether it is permissable to marry this woman even if she is ahlul kitab?

Allah says in the Quran,

This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues if any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good).
Translation of the Quran 5:5

i've highlighted the relevent point, because if this brother is in a relationship with this woman, even if she is a jew or christian, she should be chaste, which means not touched in a sexual way outside marriage. now short of hanging around the gates of convent schools, such women are extremely rare to find in the west.

yes muslims can regret such actions, make tawbah and turn back to Allah, but the tawbah of a kaffir or kaffirah is not acceptable to Allah so the only woman acceptable from amongst ahlul kitab are women who have have not been touched sexually outside of marriage.

As well as this, subhanallah the number of brothers i know who have taken this step and then it has led to disaster is shocking.

and what is more, if / when she leaves him and takes the kids, he will grow old knowing his children were raised upon kufr, i have known many brothers crying because they were in this situation, as in the west the courts nearly always side with the woman in custody and always sides with the non-muslim partner against the muslim.

i think we should be careful and before answering check the permissability of the course of action we advice, not just advise without checking first and giving false hope that something is permissable when it is not.

if the brother is beginning to practice, it would be best to stop relations with this woman, not continue sinning. if he feels she would be interested in islam then invite her or better get a sister to invite her to islam, otherwise we have far too many sisters unable to find husbands as it is.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdillah
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good point!
JazakAllahukhair Br Dawud
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